> In 2000, when the Hearst Corporation was facing antitrust concerns (including from Fang) over its acquisition of the San Francisco Chronicle, she acquired the San Francisco Examiner from them for $100 while also receiving a $66 million subsidy from Hearst to run the Examiner for three years, becoming the first Asian American to own a major daily newspaper in the US.[4][7][5] In 2004, she sold it to Philip Anschutz for $11 million.[7]
Most of the time when people acquire something for $1 or $100 or whatever the deal includes them assuming some of the existing liabilities. Sometimes you have to pay a consideration of value to make the contract enforceable but the $100 isn't what she's actually providing, she's probably underwritten some of the creditors or agreed to pay staff and suppliers or whatever. It's not actually $100 is the whole amount she would have been on the hook for.
I suspect for every person who's bought a company for nothing, and ended up in profit, there are _many_ people who've bought a company for nothing, and ended up blowing millions on it. Unless you're really good at this sort of thing and/or lucky it may not be a deal you _want_.
The whole set of wealthy people is a small subset of the tried-to-get-wealthy set.
Society has a hyper-fixation on the winners, and is largely blind to the much larger set of losers. "School of Hard Knocks", the social media channel where the kid goes around interviewing wealthy and ultra wealthy individuals about how they made it, has a very common theme: "Be willing to take risks".
This pretty much translates to "I put it all on black 3 times, and it hit 3 times". He never interviews the losers.
It's not a subset, as there are plenty of people who are wealthy because someone up their family tree tried and succeeded at getting wealthy, and subsequent generations simply failed to be in the "actively try to get poor" set.
The difference is that "I put it all on black 3 times" is purely up to chance, whereas business is generally not. There is luck involved, but skill or at least expertise about what the market will support still comes into play.
Someone who knows what they're doing has a much greater likelihood of success, unlike when you put it all on black.
It helps to have success. I know someone who the bank called (before I was born - likely 1960s) to buy a nearly bankrupt plumbing business. He turned the company around and sold it for a lot of money a few years later. However the banks called he has a history of success running businesses. He did a similar story with a trash pickup service a different time.
Damn, both her Wikipedia article as well that of her as her "archenemy" Rose Pak are fascinating (even though I don't like either of them based on what I read).
My sister and I went there with our mom and our dachshund Bismark when I was a kid. They had a "no dogs allowed" sign, but we figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. The guy in the ticket booth looked at Bismark and asked, "Is that a dog or a Texas flea?"
> Have you ever wanted to own gigantic, realistic-looking dinosaurs for your backyard?
Yes, we have an approx 1-acre paddock next to the road that's completely unused and I really want dinosaurs!
I don't even need them animatronic, static will do. There just aren't many vendors for this sort of thing. It's a shame that shipping from NJ to Western Australia is likely to be prohibitive...
It's a nice piece done up well and made with the intent to sell, sure.
One of the fun things about W.Australia (and elsewhere) is the number of people that make semi decent scrap art for the fun of and put it up on their properties or roadside (the road into the town where I am now has a 30+ year history of having various (large) trees "dressed up" Mr. Potato Head style).
The Broome dino I linked above is a throw to history I lived as a child, following dinosaur tracks in various places when the tide went out or sand banks shifted.
I remember heading out of Perth to the South about 15 years ago and at some point passing a field with various UFOs and other pieces of scrap art arranged along the roadside. I should probably figure out welding at some point!
We're on the edges of Perth metro and would be quite happy being the weird dino house.
There's already (though I haven't seen it for a few months) a Pajero around here that has a Jurassic Park style wrap on it, that drives by once in a while.
I was looking at buying one of these for my house, but (a) I don't really have time to deal with such a purchase, and (b) just transporting it back to my house would cost more than the damn thing itself costs!
There used to be a place called "Lost World" on Highway 17 from San Jose to Santa Cruz with about thirty full-scale concrete dinosaurs. That roadside attraction folded in the 1970s, but the dinosaurs remained for years, slowly being hidden by growing foliage.[1]
Sad to see it go, I spent the summer of 2019 there maintaining the dinos and repairing a lot of the controllers. It was a fun experience, and I have fond memories of the people there. I'm still a little tempted to buy one just for nostalgia's sake.
I saw this in Secaucus where it was in a pretty cool location. Then it moved to the town where I lived at the time and I wondered how much less interesting it would be in a flat field next to the public works department.
The Science Center ones were reportedly in bad shape, possibly beyond reasonable repair, and quite basic in their construction and movement. Tail goes side to side, neck goes up and down. Nothing like what a modernized version would be.
My kids remember them fondly but they were not amazing feats of art or engineering.
my wife of many years is relieved that I lost my bid on a roller coaster this weekend. I have the space for one, but there is only so much I dare spend and the previous owners knew how to find buyers from around the world. (If anyone has a lead on one for a lower price let me know)
Do I understand correctly that you don’t believe in dinosaurs? If so that’s super interesting! Can you say more about what you believe? What do you think of fossils?
Likely a dumb troll, but there are some fundamental Christians that believe the world is 6k years old and Satan put fossils into the world to make you question your faith.
Where "some" is, according to polling data, actually a crazy large amount of Americans.
>“Human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals.” About 46% of the American public consistently agree with that option, about the same number who back the middle option in Gallup’s surveys.
If you let the question trigger the right religion call and response, 44% of americans choose to say that god created humans as they are now sometime within the past 10k years.
If you get esoteric to try and lean on how crazy the real fundies get, you ask people about continental drift. 10% of Americans outright deny continental drift being a process that occurs over millions of years.
30 million Americans is the lower bound to the amount of people who hold outright insanely false views on reality expressly for religious reasons. These are people who are desperately looking for reasons to believe that all of modern science is a conspiracy meant to keep them docile or unbelieving or some bullshit or other, and think science as an institution has been perverting the world for, uh, satan.
I was (previously) one of the fundamental Christians who didn't believe in evolution, but I certainly never doubted that dinosaurs were real. I think "dinosaurs weren't real" is incredibly niche, I don't know anyone personally that believes that, even though I know people that believe in flat earth, lizard people, etc. Definitely plenty of weirdness in the fundamental Christian groups, but I think "dinosaurs never existed" is weird even for that. For example, many (most?) fundamental Christians believe the leviathan is a type of dinosaur, so it would be weird to doubt they ever existed.
But I do still agree with your main point -- fundamentalist religions encourage the kind of belief that persists _in spite of_ evidence, leading to some very strange (and sometimes dangerous) beliefs.
fwiw, here are some interesting and mostly-harmless beliefs that my "cohort" held
- Men have one less rib than women
- Noah's ark is still somewhere on Mt. Ararat, we just haven't found it yet
- If you dredge up the Red Sea, you'll find Egyptian chariots from when they chased the Jewish people fleeing Egypt. Evidence to the contrary be damned!
- Pokemon, DnD, and Harry Potter have real-world evil power. We were not allowed to read / play / watch these things as kids. But LOTR and Chronicles of Narnia are ok, because the authors were Christian, and the stories are basically the Bible in a trenchcoat.
- All languages departed from a single common tongue around 6k years ago, near Babylon
- The first humans lived _super long_, like 300+ years. It's only recently that lifespan is reduced to the sub-100 range. There was serious discussion that this effect is because there was a layer of water high in the atmosphere that was drained during Noah's flood (ie, the "waters above"). With that protective layer drained, human lifespans were cut short. I guess the implication is that the sun's rays are somehow super damaging in all sorts of nefarious ways? Just don't think about it too hard lol
Dinosaurs had feathers. Or at least some of them did (evidence is hard to find when we mostly have bones, but a few feathers have been found preserved so we know for sure some did, but that doesn't mean all did). None of these do, including ones that we should expect would have.
Time to start a crowdfunding effort to help buy these for the Flinstone’s Lady house off of 280 [1] [2]
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flintstone_House [2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/06/flintstone-h...
I don't think she needs crowdfunding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Fang
> In 2000, when the Hearst Corporation was facing antitrust concerns (including from Fang) over its acquisition of the San Francisco Chronicle, she acquired the San Francisco Examiner from them for $100 while also receiving a $66 million subsidy from Hearst to run the Examiner for three years, becoming the first Asian American to own a major daily newspaper in the US.[4][7][5] In 2004, she sold it to Philip Anschutz for $11 million.[7]
How do I get this kind of deal?
Most of the time when people acquire something for $1 or $100 or whatever the deal includes them assuming some of the existing liabilities. Sometimes you have to pay a consideration of value to make the contract enforceable but the $100 isn't what she's actually providing, she's probably underwritten some of the creditors or agreed to pay staff and suppliers or whatever. It's not actually $100 is the whole amount she would have been on the hook for.
I suspect for every person who's bought a company for nothing, and ended up in profit, there are _many_ people who've bought a company for nothing, and ended up blowing millions on it. Unless you're really good at this sort of thing and/or lucky it may not be a deal you _want_.
The whole set of wealthy people is a small subset of the tried-to-get-wealthy set.
Society has a hyper-fixation on the winners, and is largely blind to the much larger set of losers. "School of Hard Knocks", the social media channel where the kid goes around interviewing wealthy and ultra wealthy individuals about how they made it, has a very common theme: "Be willing to take risks".
This pretty much translates to "I put it all on black 3 times, and it hit 3 times". He never interviews the losers.
It's not a subset, as there are plenty of people who are wealthy because someone up their family tree tried and succeeded at getting wealthy, and subsequent generations simply failed to be in the "actively try to get poor" set.
By plenty you mean most. Class movement is generally a fiction.
The difference is that "I put it all on black 3 times" is purely up to chance, whereas business is generally not. There is luck involved, but skill or at least expertise about what the market will support still comes into play.
Someone who knows what they're doing has a much greater likelihood of success, unlike when you put it all on black.
Correct, you have to work hard and know what you are doing just to get a chance to sit at the table.
It helps to have success. I know someone who the bank called (before I was born - likely 1960s) to buy a nearly bankrupt plumbing business. He turned the company around and sold it for a lot of money a few years later. However the banks called he has a history of success running businesses. He did a similar story with a trash pickup service a different time.
Damn, both her Wikipedia article as well that of her as her "archenemy" Rose Pak are fascinating (even though I don't like either of them based on what I read).
I misread that as 'her "archenemy" Rosa Parks' and had some concerns for a second...
Or to upgrade the existing ones at Crystal Palace park
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_Dinosaurs
I’ve driven past that house a million times and always thought to look it up - and always immediately forgot again.
Now you reminded me and I know the backstory
What, is that thing for sale again?
If you ever find yourself on Highway 101 south of Port Orford, Oregon, Prehistoric Gardens is a must-visit:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/nncu1vYRtGoK83Rg6
My sister and I went there with our mom and our dachshund Bismark when I was a kid. They had a "no dogs allowed" sign, but we figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. The guy in the ticket booth looked at Bismark and asked, "Is that a dog or a Texas flea?"
We found out that Texas fleas were allowed in!
> Have you ever wanted to own gigantic, realistic-looking dinosaurs for your backyard?
Yes, we have an approx 1-acre paddock next to the road that's completely unused and I really want dinosaurs!
I don't even need them animatronic, static will do. There just aren't many vendors for this sort of thing. It's a shame that shipping from NJ to Western Australia is likely to be prohibitive...
Hey now, let's not forget the Australovenator
~ https://www.jordanspriggsculptures.com.au/australovenatorand a home ground culture that loves scrap metal* and Mig welders.
* https://ictv.com.au/video/11144-stompem-ground-scrap-metal-t...
I mean that is amazing, and I would imagine fetched a fair whack more than this theme park wants for its second-hand animatronics!
It's a nice piece done up well and made with the intent to sell, sure.
One of the fun things about W.Australia (and elsewhere) is the number of people that make semi decent scrap art for the fun of and put it up on their properties or roadside (the road into the town where I am now has a 30+ year history of having various (large) trees "dressed up" Mr. Potato Head style).
The Broome dino I linked above is a throw to history I lived as a child, following dinosaur tracks in various places when the tide went out or sand banks shifted.
People are less open about sharing where tracks are now, for good reason: https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/science-environment/...
I remember heading out of Perth to the South about 15 years ago and at some point passing a field with various UFOs and other pieces of scrap art arranged along the roadside. I should probably figure out welding at some point!
We're on the edges of Perth metro and would be quite happy being the weird dino house.
There's already (though I haven't seen it for a few months) a Pajero around here that has a Jurassic Park style wrap on it, that drives by once in a while.
> There just aren't many vendors for this sort of thing
There's always alibaba
https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?SearchText=animatronic%...
I expected 2 more zeros. That's cheap!
yeah me too! I thought the ones on facebook marketplace were cheap. It looks like they're about the same price new.
Might be cheaper to ship from here https://www.mcsdino.com/collections/animatronic-dinosaur
You need someone to go and 3D scan them for you, then get your YouTube channel big enough for a Bambu Labs sponsorship.
And a lot of filament. A _lot_ of filament...
A 52-foot-long animatronic Spinosaurus for $2900? Now that's a heck of a deal.
I was looking at buying one of these for my house, but (a) I don't really have time to deal with such a purchase, and (b) just transporting it back to my house would cost more than the damn thing itself costs!
Perfect fit for the 53 ft tractor trailer you have lying around, too
the Spinosaurus is definitely the best deal of the bunch. If I remember correctly, it was the newest one and had the most articulation of the dinos.
It would probably cost more to landfill it
FB marketplace in Los Angeles has old props and sometimes it gets weird
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/811783558682707/
Link is NSFW by the way.
There's theme park with animatronics dinosaurs close to where I live: https://alchymistprehistoricpark.com.br/o-park/
Their argentinosauro is Huge.
The perks of living in a big city.
Their argentinosauro may be huge, but can it dribble and score?
There's no rule that says argentinosauro can't play basketball.
I meant soccer. The theme park is in Fortaleza, Brazil.
There used to be a place called "Lost World" on Highway 17 from San Jose to Santa Cruz with about thirty full-scale concrete dinosaurs. That roadside attraction folded in the 1970s, but the dinosaurs remained for years, slowly being hidden by growing foliage.[1]
[1] https://www.facebook.com/groups/sanjosevalleyorchards/posts/...
The link says the dinosaurs were sold and moved to southern california. Anyone know where they are today?
Sad to see it go, I spent the summer of 2019 there maintaining the dinos and repairing a lot of the controllers. It was a fun experience, and I have fond memories of the people there. I'm still a little tempted to buy one just for nostalgia's sake.
Guys I’m about to revolutionize my living room
Wow, this isn’t far from me… I will visit soon and maybe snag a velociraptor! Thanks for the post!
I saw this in Secaucus where it was in a pretty cool location. Then it moved to the town where I lived at the time and I wondered how much less interesting it would be in a flat field next to the public works department.
With Halloween coming up, I would LOVE to have one or two of these for my front yard. The HOA would have a conniption ... LOL!
Sounds like something that many YouTubers will want.
The Pacific Science Center in Seattle just threw their dinosaurs in the trash. At least these can go to a new home.
The Science Center ones were reportedly in bad shape, possibly beyond reasonable repair, and quite basic in their construction and movement. Tail goes side to side, neck goes up and down. Nothing like what a modernized version would be.
My kids remember them fondly but they were not amazing feats of art or engineering.
Sure, but someone will still spend a few hundo on that and put it in their yard.
If only shipping were cheaper…
Sounds like something John Oliver should buy on his show
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my wife of many years is relieved that I lost my bid on a roller coaster this weekend. I have the space for one, but there is only so much I dare spend and the previous owners knew how to find buyers from around the world. (If anyone has a lead on one for a lower price let me know)
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Do I understand correctly that you don’t believe in dinosaurs? If so that’s super interesting! Can you say more about what you believe? What do you think of fossils?
Likely a dumb troll, but there are some fundamental Christians that believe the world is 6k years old and Satan put fossils into the world to make you question your faith.
Where "some" is, according to polling data, actually a crazy large amount of Americans.
>“Human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals.” About 46% of the American public consistently agree with that option, about the same number who back the middle option in Gallup’s surveys.
If you let the question trigger the right religion call and response, 44% of americans choose to say that god created humans as they are now sometime within the past 10k years.
If you get esoteric to try and lean on how crazy the real fundies get, you ask people about continental drift. 10% of Americans outright deny continental drift being a process that occurs over millions of years.
30 million Americans is the lower bound to the amount of people who hold outright insanely false views on reality expressly for religious reasons. These are people who are desperately looking for reasons to believe that all of modern science is a conspiracy meant to keep them docile or unbelieving or some bullshit or other, and think science as an institution has been perverting the world for, uh, satan.
So that's not terribly comforting.
>https://ncse.ngo/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-...
I was (previously) one of the fundamental Christians who didn't believe in evolution, but I certainly never doubted that dinosaurs were real. I think "dinosaurs weren't real" is incredibly niche, I don't know anyone personally that believes that, even though I know people that believe in flat earth, lizard people, etc. Definitely plenty of weirdness in the fundamental Christian groups, but I think "dinosaurs never existed" is weird even for that. For example, many (most?) fundamental Christians believe the leviathan is a type of dinosaur, so it would be weird to doubt they ever existed.
But I do still agree with your main point -- fundamentalist religions encourage the kind of belief that persists _in spite of_ evidence, leading to some very strange (and sometimes dangerous) beliefs.
fwiw, here are some interesting and mostly-harmless beliefs that my "cohort" held
- Men have one less rib than women
- Noah's ark is still somewhere on Mt. Ararat, we just haven't found it yet
- If you dredge up the Red Sea, you'll find Egyptian chariots from when they chased the Jewish people fleeing Egypt. Evidence to the contrary be damned!
- Pokemon, DnD, and Harry Potter have real-world evil power. We were not allowed to read / play / watch these things as kids. But LOTR and Chronicles of Narnia are ok, because the authors were Christian, and the stories are basically the Bible in a trenchcoat.
- All languages departed from a single common tongue around 6k years ago, near Babylon
- The first humans lived _super long_, like 300+ years. It's only recently that lifespan is reduced to the sub-100 range. There was serious discussion that this effect is because there was a layer of water high in the atmosphere that was drained during Noah's flood (ie, the "waters above"). With that protective layer drained, human lifespans were cut short. I guess the implication is that the sun's rays are somehow super damaging in all sorts of nefarious ways? Just don't think about it too hard lol
what do you say about downvotosaurus, smartie
Dinosaurs had feathers. Or at least some of them did (evidence is hard to find when we mostly have bones, but a few feathers have been found preserved so we know for sure some did, but that doesn't mean all did). None of these do, including ones that we should expect would have.
Those who want realism shouldn't buy these.
Lol ok man