Genuine question, are they? The responses in this article seem very reasonable to me. Is there some evidence that these explanations are lies?
I’m a little out of the loop so it’s a genuine question.
I suspect that people are scared because the word “digital” is involved.
I can’t get a job in the US without presenting a social security card and drivers license, or alternatively, a passport (and there are a few other methods of identification and proof of right to work). I have to prove that I have the legal right to work and the employer submits my information to an electronic system.
It would actually be nice if the process was more digital rather than having to send my employer copies of my ID(s) or physically presenting them.
People in the UK, at least these impacted, already know for a fact that the system IS going to be messed up and riddled with problems, without clear avenue to have it fixed
Meanwhile people will be losing jobs and houses because of it.
People trapped in this system (eg: millions of Europeans that must use this system) have pleaded to be issues a physical proof of their rights to stay, only to be rudely refused.
UK government lies that it's supposed to mimic some European ID's (which are primarily physical with the digital representation), lies it's supposed to combat illegal employment (employers are mandated to check the right to work anyway, those who don't won't be checking it anyway), and is _deep_ in bed with Palantir, which has its tentacles all over this project.
This is why UK is rejecting the idea -- again.
Voluntary, Smart, physical IDs? I'd probably get myself one. My home country issues something like it and it's a breeze to be able to prove my identity over the Internet to interact with the services.
This is a whole bunch of noise, the reality is the only thing matters is adoption. The UK has tried pushing some form of digital ID for years, and its led to nothing. The old traditional means of verifying oneself has continued to be the way, and will be the way, until the ID is coupled with tremendous economic benefits for which folks are happy to adopt it.
BankID technically isn’t compulsory in Sweden, but life without it is A LOT harder now that every service has been adapted to its availability.
It's like a driver's license/state ID in the USA, not mandatory but life is a lot harder without it.
Not actually compulsory - but you won't be able to get a job without it.
Government seems to be being disingenuous in its response to public reaction.
If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone make the same sort of slight of hand in HN comments...
Genuine question, are they? The responses in this article seem very reasonable to me. Is there some evidence that these explanations are lies?
I’m a little out of the loop so it’s a genuine question.
I suspect that people are scared because the word “digital” is involved.
I can’t get a job in the US without presenting a social security card and drivers license, or alternatively, a passport (and there are a few other methods of identification and proof of right to work). I have to prove that I have the legal right to work and the employer submits my information to an electronic system.
It would actually be nice if the process was more digital rather than having to send my employer copies of my ID(s) or physically presenting them.
People in the UK, at least these impacted, already know for a fact that the system IS going to be messed up and riddled with problems, without clear avenue to have it fixed
- https://www.computerweekly.com/news/366618163/UK-eVisa-syste...
- https://righttoremain.org.uk/uk-government-admits-huge-probl...
Meanwhile people will be losing jobs and houses because of it.
People trapped in this system (eg: millions of Europeans that must use this system) have pleaded to be issues a physical proof of their rights to stay, only to be rudely refused.
UK government lies that it's supposed to mimic some European ID's (which are primarily physical with the digital representation), lies it's supposed to combat illegal employment (employers are mandated to check the right to work anyway, those who don't won't be checking it anyway), and is _deep_ in bed with Palantir, which has its tentacles all over this project.
This is why UK is rejecting the idea -- again.
Voluntary, Smart, physical IDs? I'd probably get myself one. My home country issues something like it and it's a breeze to be able to prove my identity over the Internet to interact with the services.
Like this? That's a scam.
The UK govt is full of bozos who just dont get quite it frankly. Frankly theres no good alternative either, its a crap shoot overall.
This is a whole bunch of noise, the reality is the only thing matters is adoption. The UK has tried pushing some form of digital ID for years, and its led to nothing. The old traditional means of verifying oneself has continued to be the way, and will be the way, until the ID is coupled with tremendous economic benefits for which folks are happy to adopt it.