I was interested in marimo, but I became less interested when I realized that they traded off being able to assign to a variable more than once in order to allow out-of-order execution of cells.
I mean as a Jupyter user, I typically do both and just keep track of what I'm doing in my head (like a repl with many snippets I can run any time), but if I wanted to make it more predictable, I would definitely give up out-of-order execution first.
My biggest problem with Jupyter is hidden state. You have no idea what order the cells executed in and how many times to get to the current state. Pluto.jl and Marimo solve that by using reactivity to make state transparent. WYSIWYG.
I have also been thoroughly impressed how Marimo has engaged with AI agents. marimo-pair is fantastic.
We have adopted marimo notebook for doing modern data science. I’m happy with their progress. Nice to see greater integration.
What’s “modern” data science?
I was interested in marimo, but I became less interested when I realized that they traded off being able to assign to a variable more than once in order to allow out-of-order execution of cells.
I mean as a Jupyter user, I typically do both and just keep track of what I'm doing in my head (like a repl with many snippets I can run any time), but if I wanted to make it more predictable, I would definitely give up out-of-order execution first.
I think that’s just a fundamental tradeoff though.
Being able to run Jupyter cells independently is a feature until it’s not.
I’d say for most of my one-off work, it’s fine. But for stuff I want to share it’s not.
I fucking love marimo for exploring data.
However my use of it has decreased a little with how easily I can conjure disposable frontends with agents to explore one off things.
You might like https://marimo.io/pair, it turns marimo into less of a notebook and more of a shared data/computational canvas for you and your agent
Why not make the agents make what you want with marimo?
there are so many issues with jupyter notebooks and marimo solves none of them
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
It sounds like you're commenting about this from experience - if you'd like to share some of that, of course that would be welcome.
My biggest problem with Jupyter is hidden state. You have no idea what order the cells executed in and how many times to get to the current state. Pluto.jl and Marimo solve that by using reactivity to make state transparent. WYSIWYG.
I have also been thoroughly impressed how Marimo has engaged with AI agents. marimo-pair is fantastic.
Well, I've enjoyed it. It's easier to set up an run from a virtual environment than Jupyter notebooks. That was a big problem I had for years.
mind elaborate?